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7 janvier 2010

Opinii de pe net -Noutati

M-am înscris în câteva forumuri în speranta de a da de astrologi care au experienta în a studia acest tip de fenomen si care sa fie wegweiser2capabili de a ne ajuta un pic în delimitarea unui interval de risc.... Pentru moment nu am obtinut mare lucru, însa va redau ce am. In masura în care am sa primesc si alte mesaje  am sa le adaug aici, am sa reactualizez data ca sa fie vizibil în meniu.

In masura în care contactati pe cineva si obtineti ceva  puteti sa  redati aici la opinii mesajul ca sa fie util si celorlalti care încearca sa analizeze situatia. Nu voi lasa însa decat mesajele care au surse.

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10.07.2009

" I am fairly sure that there will be a big disaster of SOME sort or more than one, SOMEWHERE in the world, in 2010, due to Jupiter/Uranus square Pluto opposite Saturn. The last time a similar configuration occurred, involving the outer planets except Neptune, was in 1931, when Jupiter/Pluto opposed Saturn and squared Uranus. That was the very worst year of the Depre$$ion and came more than a year after the October 1929 Wall $treet cra$h and after it looked as if there might have been an economic recovery in 1930. I would say that 2009 is like 1930 in this respect.

And besides a worsened Depre$$ion, there will almost certainly be natural disasters in 2010 and a resurgence in sunspot activity. As a precedent, under similar astrological aspects to those that will occur in 2010, on 3 February 1931 at about 10 a.m. there occurred a magnitude 8 earthquake in New Zealand that largely destroyed the cities of Napier and Hastings and several nearby towns, killing 256 people (at a time when the area had a fairly low population).

John W   "

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12.07.2009

" Hello , welcome to PA.

Yes, this is certainly an challenging scenario, did the psychic give any more details, montaud_dialoguer_ange

or suggest a time of year? How well known or regarded is this person?

I'm sure you're aware that there are many psychic visions that fail to materialize, one always wonders what 'time' past, present or future are being intuited.

As to the methods to study this, I can think of three and hope others might give more direction. This is not something I 'specialize' in but have followed the discussions here on PA of other natural events with interest, and there is much in our message archives that might help you.

1. Studying the cardinal ingresses of the Sun is very informative, this is by casting a 'location specific' horoscope for each cardinal ingress of the Sun into Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn.

2. Visit www.weathersage.com, and read about Carolyn Egan's work. She has instruction on cd available. This would especially give instruction for studying the lunar cycles, eclipses, and declinations for a particular area that would identify stressful times for a particular region.

3. An earthquake of such magnitude would most likely affect the charts of other agencies, localities, people in your area, and so I would recommend researching additional charts to analyse for the possibility of this event.

I've been tied up with some household projects, sorry for taking so long to respond. Fortunately there will be time to take a better look at this.

Sincerely,

Sherri "

Nota: ar fi interesant cred ca astrologii nostri care studiaza problema sa obtina numele localitatii celei mai apropiate de epicentrul din Vrancea, sa obtina "data ei de nastere" si sa faca din nou tranzitele pe harta ei natala , poate obtin niste rezultate semnificative, pentru ca defapt de acolo pleaca "buba"....

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15. 07. 2009

antares  "  There's a lot of interesting information on using astrology to predict earthquakes. I've worked with some of it and often found success. Eclipses which take place on or near the nadir or IC or the transit of that point by a malefic (Mars, Saturn, or the invisibles - Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) are often indications of earthquakes. The magnitude of the quake is generally
shown by the brightness of the fixed stars involved. Dim ones say 3rd to 6th magnitude might be a minor tremor or a light quake but brighter stars give more intense quakes.

If you like I can collect my references. Traditional astrologers consider earthquake prediction part of weather prediction mostly because they involve the same house - the 4th, and it has connections with mines and underground things as well as weather and some other things.

Check the charts for a few known quakes and look at eclipses within a couple of weeks on either side of the quake date and when malefics transit the IC, square it or oppose it. Sometimes earthquakes are a little more subtle but this is the known signature and you can verify it and get a feel for it by looking at a few charts. Most astrological software includes a small database of earthquake charts. Try a few and see if you could have predicted the event. You may also want to look at Ingress charts for the seasons.

Jonathan "

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" Weather and Earthquake Forecasting With Astrology 

Georges DUPEYRON

Chapter III: Astrology and earthquakes                          homepagezgf                     

By decreasing order of importance, we find;
- House XII: Ruling the internal forces of Earth, and being the house of ordeals;
- House IV: The underground, the ground structure under the city, (building  foundations also), but also means the END of things.
- House VI: Representing the health and accidents of the world, and being the result of XII: damage, landscape modifcations, a.s.o.,
- House VIII at least, because it means deep changes (of the underground), but also linked to casualties.

The cusp of XII in Earth signs (in the moon phase chart) may indicate seismic activity, especially if house XII is occupied by “violent” planets (Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus) and/or rulers of other seismic houses(VI, IV, VIII). The ruler of XII in other seismic houses will increase the risk, as it does in angular houses (I, IV, VII, X), and in the last case the magnitude will be greater. (these indicators or “risk factors” are easy to check also…).

The same analysis has to be made for houses IV and VIII.

Aspects are to be taken into account for planets linked to seismic houses (both harmonic and disharmonic aspects are effective, the last increasing casualties and damages).

We can try to determine the precise moment for the EQ by checking exact aspects during the current moon phase. When aspects (and also declination parallels or anti parallels) involving risk factors and seismic houses are becoming exacts, the EQ is more likely to occur.
1.4 Chapter IV: The meaning of planets in EQ astrology
The nature of the planets linked to seismic houses will give indications about the kind of earthquake, its violence, and so on…

Sun is mainly found in vertical EQ, when the ground moves up. Moreover, EQ are more frequent and more violent when solar activity (sun spots) is high (any idea about where to find tabulated data about solar activity for a long period ?).

Moon indicates that the EQ will occur near water (harbors, lakes, seaside, …).

Mercury , closely linked to Pluto, means that tectonic plates will move. When moving past the Sun disc, it may cause big EQ (in particular when solar activity is high). Mercury is also involved when there is a lot of small earth tremors.

Venus plays a small role in EQ, except when passing the Sun disc.

Mars in very active in violent and sudden EQ, especially horizontal ones.

Jupiter is by far the most dangerous planet, increasing dramatically the effects of a seism. Also involved in EQ causing damage in a very large area, and in deep EQ.

Saturn, on the opposite, means limitation and stability, so it is not prominent in EQ activation. Saturn and Pluto are in relation with magma, and are important in volcanic activity. Saturn may precise the location of EQ in hilly regions, or in mountains.

Uranus if a main cause in sudden, short (a few seconds) and deadly EQ. Also appears in uncommon seismic activity.

Neptune has no clear role in triggering EQ, but indicates a location in deep sea, possibly with tsunamis. Involved in the caving-in, collapse or flooding of areas.

Pluto is efficient only when in VIII or ruler of VIII, and then we can expect a lot of casualties.

Most of the time, two planets are necessary to move tectonic plates: Mars (strength) with Mercury (direction); Mercury (motion) with Sun or Pluto (energy); Pluto with Saturn (effort). Strangely enough, these pairs rules signs in sextile (Mars-Aries with Mercury-Gemini; the last with Sun-Leo; Mercury-Virgo with Pluto-Scorpio, and the last with Saturn-Capricorn).

1.5 Chapter V: The role of aspects and signs
Aspects are important between “seismic pairs” such as Mars and Mercury, but we have to check also planets linked with seismic houses, especially when the ruler of XII makes aspects to the rulers of or planets in IV, VI or VIII.

Relationships between the following planets are to be checked:
Sun with Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus and Pluto;
Mercury with Mars, Jupiter, Uranus and Pluto;
Mars with Jupiter, Uranus and Pluto;
Jupiter with Uranus and Pluto;
Uranus with Pluto;

The more risk factors we find in a moon phase chart, the more an EQ is likely to occur.

[...] "


galaxia_gigante 5) Hi,  I am exploring to find if earthquakes can be predicted by ingresses and transits on previous Grand Conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn.

One of the strongest earthquakes since 1900, occurred off the west coast of Northern Sumatra, magnitude 9.1, on December 26, 2004, 7:58:53 -7:00;  3.316°N and 95.854°E Ascendant 21 Capricorn opposed to Saturn.  This earthquake caused a Tsunami who killed hundreds of thousands of people.

May 28, 2000 Jupiter-Saturn Grand Conjunction's Mercury conjunct Betelgeuse of the nature of Mars and Mercury which cause violent storms and rain, and is linked to shipwreck, drowning, massacres, and according to Diana Rosenberg, is linked to theatrical events with intense emotion, if I understand well this fixed star.    Mercury rules a stellium of planets in Gemini:  Mars, Venus, Sun.   Mercury conjunct malefic Mars square debilitated peregrine Moon 2 Aries conjunct terrible fixed star called Cetus the Sea Monster of the nature of Saturn which can cause restraints in every way, psychologically and physically, self-destruction by brute force.

On December 26, 2004, Full Moon square GC Moon and Cetus the Sea Monster.   Also to consider:  transit Saturn, Moon in Gemini/Cancer opposes transit Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars in Sagittarius and Capricorn (incl. antiscions) and it triggers the Grand Conjunction stellium of planets square to Grand Conjunction Moon.

I think it is useful to compare also this event to previous Aries Ingress on the same location

 

Aries Ingress of the Sun

20 March 2004

13:48:31 -7:00

03N31 095E08

15 Cancer rises conjunct Saturn

26 Aries culminates conjunct Mercury

 

2004 Aries Ingress New Moon is conjunct Grand Conjunction terrible Moon;  Aries Ingress Saturn conjunct Grand Conjunction Mercury.  On December 26, 2004, transit Moon conjunct Ingress Saturn;   transit Sun, Mercury, Mars, Venus in Capricorn/Sagittarius opposes this and square Ingress Mercury.

 

Using the same technique, maybe it can indicate some catastrophes similar to tsunami in the future?

 

2009 Aries Ingress Saturn square GC Mars. There is no contact however on GC Mercury-Betelgeuse and GC Moon-Sea Monster.  However, yesterday 25 persons were swept to sea during a storm in Massachussets, and transit Mercury 27Virgo has joined Virgo Saturn, and square GC Mercury-Belgeuse and GC Moon-Sea Monster.

 

on Astrologyinaction


6 ) If you want you can ask the owner of the site if he can do  16180948_807_mini
predictions for Romania,


http://www.meteoquake.org/meteoseisme.html

http://www.meteoquake.org/ionization.html


 



7) 2 Aug 2009/ Astrologyinaction


There is a method for earthquake prediction, of Athanasios  Aggelopoulos. One factor this method uses for strong earthquakes on  all earth is, equal distances formed of two planets to a third in our  solar system.

Visually in the following map today:   http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

           I see Saturn-Jupiter equals Pluto-Jupiter and Saturn-Pluto applicative to equal Uranus-Pluto.

         Another factor Athanasios Aggelopoulos wrote for earthquake prediction  is that conjunctions and oppositions of Venus are associated nearly  always with greater than 6 R earthquakes.

Today we had a quake greater than 6 R:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

Look also, how the Moon is triggering the Venus Pluto opposition.

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

I see Saturn-Jupiter equals Pluto-Jupiter and

Saturn-Pluto applicative to equal Uranus-Pluto.

.."

I meant, Saturn-Jupiter REAL DISTANCE equals Pluto-Jupiter REAL DISTANCE

and Saturn-Pluto REAL DISTANCE applicative to equal Uranus-Pluto
REAL DISTANCE.

The above is not conventional astrology, is the result of contemporary research.

In the above link we can see VISUALLY the representation of the REAL DISTANCES
between planets. (I hope that that site gives a good representation)
. For PRECISION of timing when REAL DISTANCES occur we need special software.

PS: about time calculation :


For who does not know, the times given in the site:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
are Universal Time (or Greenwich time) and the earthly Latitude and
Longitude
are given in degrees decimal.

Who wants to cast a chart, must know how to use the above info.

If we want degrees and minutes, we must convert the decimal part in minutes.
for example Latitude "-15.350" can be written as "15 degrees, 21
minutes, South".
Why 21, because 0.350 x 60 = 21.

Pay attention to Time, too.



By M. Ikeya  on Google Books



"...This chapter has introduced the reader to some of the many Japanese proverbs and
legends about earthquake precursors. Whether they are real or merely superstitions
is a matter of controversy. Most Asian people believe that animals are sensing something
before earthquakes but that science cannot yet explain what it is. The author’s view is that science is mature enough to explain what it is, but that  specialists aretoo busy in, and sometimes protective of, their own fields to give
themselves to the sort of joint effort that will clarify the phenomena.


Drawing from laboratory experiments Earthquakes and Animals attempts to demonstrate a scientific basis to many of the earthquake legends and  reported precursor phenomena. The author is hopeful that animal precursors in particular will find a place in earthquake forecasting in an informal way. This is not  to say there will be an earthquake, but the average citizen, aware of earthquake  precursors, is more likely to take the kind of sensible precautions that will save
lives and protect property..."

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